View source for Dovedale Wiki:Moving From FANDOM

While FANDOM provides excellent support and uptime, the company is a for-profit that cares very little about its communities. We have decided to make a move away from them. The Fandom version of the wiki was started in September 2023. There were multiple incidents which will be listed below which ultimately led to our move, which you can read about below. 


= For You = 
But before we start, what do you get as a user by using our new wiki? Here are some benefits: 
* Less/no aggressive advertisements! 
** A quieter experience awaits! Read more about this section below. We will try to be as transparent as possible on the matter of advertising. Currently, we have no advertisements, but this may change in the future to provide a sustainable form of income.
* A new skin that suits our game! 
** No more ugly fandom sidebar, branding, or nonsense from them. 
* No more age popup!
** Unlike Fandom, we won’t be forcing you to tell us if you’re a child or an adult.
* A community owned and centric platform 
** Fandom will no longer have a say in our creative power, how we can operate and what we can do, meaning a better, cleaner, faster, and more community centric site for everyone! 

= Creative Restrictions = 
There were too many restrictions on what we could and could not do, and we did not have full power onto the site. Simple things like  [https://community.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000003481265 theme colours are highly restricted.] We also have rules on how things work on the wiki, such as styling, which can restrict our creative power. 

= Power=
We have very little control of what goes on on the site. Recently, Fandom staff gave former staff bureaucratic powers on the wiki maliciously, without consultation to current site admins. It was a massive headache for all staff when this happened, as we had to constantly ensure the wiki was not getting vandalised. Fandom also has a [https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/14cm9wf/fandom_wiki_sells_grimaces_wiki_page_to_mcdonalds/ notorious reputation for using wikis for their own intrests], and not the community. Fandom has also taken decisions in the past that have negatively impacted other communities, such as [https://community.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000003173569 changing skins] forcefully, requiring tons of community effort to re-style. Each wiki has a complicated amount of CSS code (code that helps style the wiki and makes it look pretty!) and is usually suited to one theme. 
Fandom also implemented [https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/15vxs2x/fandom_is_now_putting_aigenerated_quick_answers/ AI generated quick summaries for articles], which were very inaccurate and were put in without consult or permission from community members. 
=Advertising =
Fandom also has very aggressive advertising, which can ruin the experience for logged out users. [https://robloxgalaxy.wiki/wiki/Galaxypedia:About#/media/File:Galaxypediamove1.jpg NSFW advertising (warning, slight NSFW)] is also not uncommon, and this is unacceptable for our community. There is no reporting and so far no mitigation ive seen for these advertising. In addition, FANDOM promotes irrelevant wikis in the 'Fan Feed' section leading to confusion. This can be especially concerning when the wiki is of a similar nature (rail simulators for example), but of a different game. While we many need to implement advertising in the future to cover hosting costs and domain fees, these are very low, and profit is not on the table for us. We will ensure we will do this in an ethical and in a conducive way if so. 

FANDOM as a corporation profit off fans' unconditional work and interest, done for free for other fans, while putting them into this poor environment. While profits are not a bad thing exclusively, the way that fandom is doing it is poor. 

=Help Us! =

FANDOM's forking policy is also very restrictive, and only allows us to do very limited things to promote our new site. In addition, it will be '''forced''' to stay up. 

While the move is a really big challenge, the biggest challenge is what happens after a move. The company has licensed content such that we cannot take it down, and is notorious for optimising search engine results to be the top. 

Thanks to advertising, data tracking and due to the sheer size of Fandom, search engines will '''always''' prefer them. 

Please help us by: 
* Using our new site https://dovedale.wiki ! The other wiki will no longer be updated by the same amazing team we have. 
* Ignoring the old wiki. Don't '''visit''' it, don't '''edit''' it, don't '''vandalize ''' it, don't post in comments or discussions – don't contribute to its activity in any way.
* Click on our wiki instead of FANDOM in Google and other search engines. This helps us build up SEO (search engine optimization) and can help us rank higher in searches. 
* Spread the word and post links to the new wiki around, be it social media, Steam, YouTube comments, etc. Any publicly posted link boosts our visibility, even more than search results clicks.
* And last but not least – join us and help the wiki to grow with your contributions!
* Consider downloading the [https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/indie-wiki-buddy/fkagelmloambgokoeokbpihmgpkbgbfm Indie Wiki Buddy] extension, an amazing extension that will redirect you from wiki farms to independent wikis.

== Further Reading == 
Many other wikis have left fandom to move to independent sites - big names among them! You can read up on their moves and their own reasons here: 
* [https://minecraft.wiki/w/Minecraft_Wiki:Moving_from_Fandom Minecraft Wiki] - Minecraft is the largest game in the world, and they have recently completed their move earlier this year. 
* [https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Hollow_Knight_Wiki Hollow Knight Wiki] - Hollow Knight is a very popular indie game on steam, which recently moved its wiki to its own site in 2023. 
* [https://pizzatower.wiki/wiki/Pizza_Tower_Wiki:Moving_from_FANDOM Pizza Tower Wiki] - Another very popular game on steam, which moved to Miraheze due to overun with vandalism. 
* [https://robloxgalaxy.wiki/wiki/Galaxypedia:About Galaxypedia] - Closer to home, Roblox Galaxy, a popular game on the same platform as us, moved citing very similar concerns. A special thank you to the administrators of this wiki for their consultations. 
* [https://starcitizen.tools Star Citizen Wiki] - Star Citizen Wiki moved from fandom much earlier due to the oasis skin change. 
* [https://jojowiki.com/JoJo_Wiki:Leaving_Fandom JoJo's Biarre Encyclopedia] - A really popular managa series started in 1986! They moved from Fandom and are self hosting their own wiki. 
This video also helps to explains our problems with Fandom.
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== Thank You == 
Thank you for supporting our wiki page so far. I really have loved working on this wiki project, and I am so happy to introduce this new site to you. As one YouTube commenter puts it very nicely; "browsing fandom without an adblocker is like trying to drive down an interstate with your windshield covered in dead bugs and rotted leaves". 

We hope that this wiki serves you better, as a community, for the community. 

> Thank you - enews.
[[User:Enews|Enews]] ([[User talk:Enews|talk]]) 15:05, 30 June 2024 (GMT)